Ep. 9: Freelancing vs. Full Time Job

Di episode kali ini kita ngobrol soal karir, perjalanan kita jadi budak korporat sampai jadi freelancer, dan beberapa pelajaran yang kita dapatkan so far. Disisipin dengan kata-kata mutiara dan motivasi buat kamu yang merintis side job atau side project 🙂

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In this episode we talk about our careers, the upsides and downsides of freelancing vs a full time 9-6 job. We reflect on our learnings and our mistakes thus far in our career. Also a bit of our tips and advice on those thinking about doing a big side project.

Book(s) mentioned in the podcast:

Show Your Work – Austin Kleon

(00:00) Intro

(01:22) A little bit of Andrew’s career journey thus far

(01:45) A little bit of Kim’s career journey thus far

(02:40) Kim’s take on full time jobs

(03:10) Andrew’s take on full time jobs

(04:30) Andrew’s story on his first time job ever

(05:20) Fresh grad idealism

(06:50) Superiority complex as a fresh grad

(08:40) Choosing freedom/flexibility vs. income stability 

(09:30) Sandwich generation

(11:28) Downside of being a freelancer

(11:48) Doing something for money vs for passion

(12:40) Western vs. Asian values in doing business

(14:45) Mark Rober – Nasa engineer turned YouTuber

(16:40) The rise of new jobs (content creation)

(19:20) There’s merit to beginners teaching other beginners – Show Your Work by Austin Kleon

(20:38) Consistency is key

(21:10) Is having a creative outlet a fundamental need? What constitutes a creative outlet?

(24:00) Posting content online is you branding yourself consciously or unconsciously

(27:00) Andrew’s update on his career, the benefits of a 9-5 job for him

(29:03) Jakarta keras bung

(29:50) The rise of hybrid working after COVID – and how it failed

(34:05) Parking lot theory

(37:10) Global layoffs

(39:30) ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) 

(41:50) Kata-kata mutiara untuk motivasi dari kami

(45:54) Parkinson’s law – Work expands to fill the available time

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